Stone of Unbinding

[Marwin Luminarias]

That would be pretty hilarious too

[Dimnersti]

just breifly. A stone of unbding doesn't necisarly have to be created by a mage of another sphere. An individual can 'unbind' naturaly ikos can conceivably increase the probability of this happening meaning a stone created to affect that specific probability combined with meditation may very well prove an affective method to unbind somone.

but *shrug* just a random thought on how to make the idea work and in a manner that fits ikos' more unique set of arcanic rules.

[Marwin Luminarias]

That works too, yeah. The Stone of Unbinding made by Ikosmancers would just be blessed with heightened probability of the user becoming Unbound. Which makes sense since Journeyman Ikosmancers can bless while Masters can do with greater ease and strength.

How that works is up to the fates

[Amber Brightwing]

The higher level the Iconomancer, the more likely you'll be unbound. Add a 'normal' mage and I see a lot of potential for 'forced unbinding' on people fall outside the 1/100 group. Could be a fun quest for a PC.

[Amarillo]

In my AGM guise, I happened across someone who thought they wanted to undergo a forced unbinding. The possible outcomes went something like:

15 percent - immediate "brain death" caused by the trauma, followed very shortly (minutes) by bodily death.

20 percent - IRREVOCABLE and COMPLETE memory loss of ALL learning ... basically returns the PC to infancy, so they'd need to do even basic things like walk all over again.

20 percent - development of trauma-related "mental issues" ... this would include any or all of: paranoia, long-term memory loss, short-term memory loss, loss of gross motor functions, loss of fine motor functions, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, chronic depression, etc

35 percent - immediate loss of some portion of short-term memory ... and the ongoing affliction of continuing short-term memory loss.

... All of the above are incurable by mundane or magical means, short of divine intervention.

In case you didn't do the math ... there's only a 10 percent chance of survival with all the senses and mental acuity necessary to continue training in arcana.

And there's about a 50-50 chance that the one doing the unbinding undergoes backlash, resulting in either a "lock" on future advancement (not an issue with NPC instructors) or an automatic demotion to the next lower level.

It really sucks to be unbound - but unable to practice arcana because your brain (or body, or soul) isn't up to the task ...

[Amber Brightwing]

Well, they should be able to freely choose to fall in that last 10% IMHO since PC's can freely decide whether they can be unbound in the first place. Of course, if they want to leave the option of screwing up their char they're free to do that as well

[Marwin Luminarias]

Looks like Masters should just 'force unbind' rather than 'Bind' with those odds

[Gye'ron Val Oriden]

Seemed an appropriate thread to ask this since you were discussing unbinding and said Stone.

Isn't the unbinding technique redundant for journeyman now? If I'm not mistaken, when the whole Stone of Unbinding thing happened I thought that either everyone was unbound or at least everyone that had the ability to be unbound in the first place was unbound. If that's the case then there's no point in trying to unbind anyone who goes for arcanic training at the initiate level because if they can be trained they'll already be unbound, and since the unbinding technique can't be used to promote someone the skill is essentially archaic and useless - like an appendix.

Unless future generations will be born bound? In which case the foresight of still teaching the technique is astounding.

[Amber Brightwing]

After the PF everyone became bound. The first unbindings were done by using the stone of unbinding, later on by the unbinding technique. I never heard of a collective unbinding.

[Gye'ron Val Oriden]

I was pretty sure that The Stone of Unbinding breaking caused the collective unbinding.

[Marwin Luminarias]

If everyone got Unbound then ... why is everyone bound now save for a few?

[Gye'ron Val Oriden]

Well that's what I was asking, but more specifically not if everyone in the empire had been unbound, but rather (more importantly) if those who had any arcanic ability had been unbound.

In either case, the unbinding technique becomes redundant. If it was just that people who had already been mages were unbound then it makes sense. Anyways, just asking out of curiosity.

[Dimnersti]

I beleive its two difrent definitions of unbdinding. The common term for being bound is a mental block.

the grand unbinding was more of a broad thing, removed general ties that prevented us from acessing the aether period. since that would explain why various races had somewhat 'altering' affects as a result, dracons and saurids in particular.

[Gye'ron Val Oriden]

I think you're right, thanks.

[Serion D'Rinishad]

I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention to this. As a PC that was involved in trying to get himself unbound right after the aether gem, I know a little bit about the broad events. The "grand unbinding" actually did occur. For a brief moment everyone was unbound, but they were then rebound, freeing them from the "aethergem ties" and allowing them to be unbound and tied to the astral plane directly via our current system.